Re: Operator Request (Boogie)

Steven Bytnar (s-bytnar@uiuc.edu)
Fri, 16 Jun 1995 14:46:24 -0500

>Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:43:35 -0700
>To:Jason Presnell <presnell@umd.umich.edu>
>From:brw@dfw.net (Branden R. Williams)
>Subject:Re: Operator Request (Boogie)
>
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>I agree it is a good idea but lamers are using it. Maybe the form should
>be remade to ask more personal questions as well as the essay. I believe
>the form does not ask enough questions in order for you guys to decide if
>they are worthy of ops. It didn't help me either btw.
>
>Maybe instead of just the one essay, the form could as several "real life"
>essay questions to learn about what the person would do and how they would
>proceed to deal with the situation.

"Real life" questions like what? "What would you do if someone came on the
channel and kicked all the ops?" "What is your favorite Macintosh?"

I think that would be even worse... and possibly lame depending on the
questions asked.

Here's my opinion: just nuke the op-request page. It seems like that's all
this mailing list deals with! I'd rather see this list used for #macintosh
Information. I dont know... maybe like for bot-updates, reviews of COOL
public domain (and commercial) software that people from the channel would
like to post, or even recent news dealing with the internet and/or the
Macintosh community.

Really, what good has this list been? 99% of the messages are op request
related.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of getting ops on #macintosh
can be summed up by a few facts:
1) you should get to know some of the regulars
2) you should not annoy the regulars
3) being on the channel for 6-9 months does not necessarily make _you_ a
regular.
4) practical Mac knowledge is good, but not really a requirement.
5) practical irc knowledge is good, but again, not really a requirement.

Also, I think it should be noted that only once you have permanent ops, I
would say it's an honor to be able to keep the channel under control. Ok,
sometimes not honorable, but a pain in the butt. Anyways, I really think
it's extremely _lame_ to see the opposite kind of response being added to
almost all of the op requests I've seen: "Oh, _IF_ I had ops, I would kick
lamers, and handle problem situations."

I just had to get my 2 cents in too,
--Steve (DDsteve@irc...away for the summer)

Steven Bytnar | Self proclaimed MRE...
http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~sb8357 | Macintosh Reverse Engineer
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U. Of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Computer Engineering